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Help! Water in oil, 6.354

Created On Friday April 14, 2006 18:00

DieselDon

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Joined: Apr 2006

Friday April 14, 2006 18:00

I have a Massey Ferguson 1135 with a Perkins AT6.354 Turbo. The machine belonged to a relative and hasn't been maintained very well over the years. I checked the oil and found it was an emulsified oil/water mix. Upon further investigation I also found oil in the coolant and when the engine is running there is visible "glugs" of air chugging out when the rad cap is removed. I figure I am looking at a head gasked or even worse a cracked block? Anyone out there with some trouble shooting suggestions? I have located a block for a 6.354 that was in a tractor but it was a non-turbo. Are all 6.354 blocks the same or is there a difference between a turbo/non-turbo engine?Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

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lobnerje

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Joined: Sep 2006

Sunday September 17, 2006 16:52

It sounds like you have exhaust entering your coolant. If for some reason the tractor should suddenly boil coolant out of the radiator overflow you can be assured this is happening. You can test the coolant for exhaust in the bubbles you are talking about. Diesel engine parts houses sell these litmus strips. I believe the exhast is coming through the seal on the piston liner. The piston liner could also have a small fracture where the exhaust comes through.

Determine which cylinder it is. You could re-torque the cylinder heads. If this does not work well tear the engine down.

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Oldhousehugger

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Friday April 03, 2009 16:01

Have you checked YT mag website for 1135 stories? Seems to me that the turbo has an oil line running to it which keeps it cool and lubricates the bearings. Perhaps the seal is gone in him allowing exhaust to enter oil. Water in the oil has been known to be caused by condensation in the engine or from getting caught in a flood where water gets down the dipstick. Look for the easy stuff first before you start pulling your hair out.
If the tractor has been sitting for a long time there may be corrosion between the back of the waterpump and the front of the head. Or it may be just the headgasket.

A word of advice about pulling the head on that tractor. You have to pull the battery box and loosen up the fasteners on the hydraulic lines which run forward to the big filter and the main pump as well as the oil cooler. I used wooden blocks to hold the lines up high enough to get the head loose. Either that or back out all the head studs and you don't even want to go there.

Worry last of all about a cracked block.

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