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Created On Sunday December 12, 2004 11:52 Diesel Talk
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jdhdkid
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I need some info.
I have a 31 ft 5th wheel and Im looking for a diesel truck to pull it. I have been looking at the F250 and F350 crew cabs 4x4.
I would like a 2005 but last night a friend who just got a 2005 F350 crew cab 4x4 (just what I wanted) told me that he is only getting 12 to 13 mpg in the city not towing. What is up with that? and should I be looking for some other truck.
This will be my first diesel along with my first 5th wheel.
Thanks for any help.

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chevytrk13
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OK, that is a big HEAVY truck. you have to remember that the more weight, the worse the fuel mileage. I would just get a 3/4 ton and live with it. however, I have not had much experience with the 6.0l, mostly with the 7.3l. Hope this helps.

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Thanks for the reply. Do you think a F 250 would handle a 31' 5th wheel. GVWR 12,400 also what do you think about short beds with a slider hitch or is a long bed better? , I'm leaning on the side of a long bed.
As far as the mileage I know its a big truck but some people have been saying they get close to 18 or better mpg, so whats with that.
Thanks,
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I think actually you have to go long bed. Yeah, no problem I have a 1990 F250 with the 7.3l na engine, I pulled a 37 foot fifth wheel no problem. -Frank

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from my own exp. i had an 84 dually pickup with a 6.9 auto & averaged around 12mpg in that light of a truck. about the same as a 460 i'd had just previously. ive heard of people getting upwards of 20mpg from their diesel pickups. maybe they did [or didnt know how to calculate milage.] i personally think a v- configuration diesel is junk. twice the cost any way you look at it in a pickup. and i'm a diesel tech!
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Would I be better off with a DRW or SRW? My wife will also be driving this truck so if I don't need dual rear wheels I would rather not. I'm now thinking of a 2005 F250 Super duty, crew cab , long bed, 4x4,
SRW, Lariat.
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Single rears are fine for what you want to do. Your trailer is not quite to the weight bracket requiring a dual rear setup. -Frank

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I have a 2004 Ford CC LB SRW 4X4, towing a 27 ft.5th wheel, GVWR of 13000 lbs.
I have been getting 12 to 13 mpg thats towing.
As far as long bed or short bed, consider the long bed for two reasons that I can think of
(1) the fuel tank size, LB has a 38 gal. tank SB is in the 20's I don't remember the exact amount.

As far as a 250 or 350 You will have to play with the numbers as far as pay load, king pin weight, cargo, passengers etc.

One thing to look out for is the clearence between rails and your 5th wheel.
I believe 2005 350 went to a 18 inche wheel, my 2004 has 16 inche wheels, so that might be an issue.

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abel
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Sorry, the 2nd reason for the long bed cargo room.
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I have a 2004 F-350 6L CC 4x4 LB. I get 16-18 mpg driving empty. Have never towed a 5th wheel, but bumper hitch trailers are a lot easier to back up with a SB than a LB.

Towing capacity is the same for F250 and 350 (says the owners manual).

Good luck.
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Abel. I read your reply to the guy who is thinking of buying a 350 to pull his 5th wheel. The milage you say you have gotten; what rear end do y ou have. I'm looking at a 4:10 or the tow boss 4:30. Any info on the kind of milage they might get empty. Does anybody know what kind of milage a 2005/F350 with a 4:10 or 4:30 rear end is likely to get

Edited: Saturday June 04, 2005 at 12:17 by woodhauler
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abel
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RE: Rear end 3.73 update on milage, I recently made a 1350 mile trip with my 5th wheel, the milage was closer to 10-11 mpg.

The trip had more hills than past trips. As far as performance there was no problem. Many times I had to look in the rear veiw
mirror to see if trailer was still there.
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abel; Thanks for your response. I bought the 350 with 4:10 rear end. I stopped a guy at the rest area this week who had the exact same truck and he told me he gets 17 mpg empty. I only have 1000 miles on this truck and every time I fill up it is showing better and better milage. Hopefully, by the time it's broken in I'll be getting this good milage. $2.30 per gal. for fuel is a killer. (my first diesel). If push comes to shove, I'll but a chip in the sucker.















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The best of luck whith your new truck, my mpg has been 15 with city & highway combination. Just highway 18 and more if you can keep it 60 mph. All these numbers are without a load.
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I suggest you look in to burning used vegtable oil in a used Cummins engine. See Idaho Univ web site on burning vegtable oil better known as bio-diesel. Best results are mixiing it with Petrolium Diesel. Also go to this web site http://www.biodiesel.org/ You can get used cooking oil for free and process your self or buy it at some select truck stops. Go Bio-Diesel! Let me know how you make out.

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Add some Marvel Mystry oil to your fuel tank. It will do wonders. Also check out BioDiesel website. http://www.biodiesel.org/

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i get 18 miles/us gallon and 21 miles/imperial gallon with my 2005 F250 6.0 PSD on the highway while empty.
these figures i figured out counting my km and litres of fuel burned and with the calculator (not the computer readout).
while towing any large load these figures will definatly drop a few miles per gallon.

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I have a 2005 Ford F-250 Diesel, single rear wheels and I pull a 2004 Challenger 32ft Fifth wheel.
At the time I bought it, diesel was about 30 cents a gallon less than gas. I just had the 25K service done ($401) and it has never given me the first minutes trouble.
As to Mileage, I can take it on a highway and drive a steady 55 and get 22 MPG. Of course, I drive faster than that when I am towing the fiver but I get 11-12 MPG. The city driving kills you because of all the start and stop. I think the Ford is probably as good as any on MPG.
I have the short bed with a crew cab. I had a long bed before this one and you couldn't turn it around in a 10 acre field, never mind trying to park it. I have a slider hitch but I have never used it. If you are careful and have a good guide, you may not need one either but beware of very sharp turns when backing. If the turn is too sharp the trailer brake connector will disconnect. This locks the trailer brakes and the trailer goes immediately to 90 degrees and will kiss the cab.
If the truck does not have them already, be sure to get a set of overload (helper) springs for the rear. The truck should sit nearly level when the trailer is hooked up. I have seen trailers with landing jacks ripped off because the truck squatted and went over some bad Interstate.
The best thing about this rig is the built in Brake controller that Ford offers. It takes all the banging and jerking out of the towing experience. If you buy a 2005, be sure it has the Brake controller package. '05 was the first year that Ford offered it and it is far and away superior to any add on that have ever used.
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