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grampa
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Note Friday October 08, 2010 15:30 View thread in raw text format
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4 those of u looking 4 more power & mileage, the part #s u have been looking 4 will be revealed on this forum b 4 the end of 2010. All but the turbo r stock detroit parts, that come with my second favorite word warranty. The turbo will b 1 of 2 stock turbos still being tested, we normally run 720 hp 2 the ground on the street & over 1300 2 the ground in play mode yes dyno proven! Some of you may know who I am others will question if this is for real. The CAT guys have all the cool clothes, We have the titles!!

~Mr. Series 60
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stump
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Note Friday October 08, 2010 17:11 View thread in raw text format
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Hook us up!!!happy
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Note Saturday October 09, 2010 15:05 View thread in raw text format
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looking forward to this. johnny
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loweredd
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Note Sunday October 10, 2010 11:11 View users profile View thread in raw text format
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I'm listening as well. I already have injectors and turbo covered. I have a cam #, but will be interested in what you have to contribute.
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Note Monday October 11, 2010 09:50 View thread in raw text format
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ok your stock engine is like having a 18 year old son,he knows when to eat. sleep. go potty and so on.. your performance engine is like a newborn babe u must feed it, burp it,change the diapers put it to bed properly. that being said u must watch your gauges more closely.do u have a large enough radiator, is the rest of your cooling system in good shape. are u smarter than your ecm, it doesnt know u changed hard parts. next u will find that combinations of parts will work best. starting point is usually performance ecm, i get mine from erich at serious series 60. for best performance he needs to know what other hard parts u have changed, or are going to change...for u ddec2 owners start with your ecm u willnot believe the difference..if you r thinking u want more try the R5234795 injectors, and stock 500 cam R23524912, u will need 2 enlarge the cam gear hole for the larger cam bolt used on the newer engines
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Note Tuesday October 12, 2010 09:45 View thread in raw text format
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^^ I ran into the bigger cam gear bolt issue when I had already installed the 500 cam last year during a re-build!! Luckily my local dealer took it back in exchange for the stock cam with the smaller bolt hole. At the time, I didn't want to take the front cover apart. I have the 5915 injectors, ecm w/500 program and 15% increase in fuel, and the 8588 turbo. I'd eventually like to upgrade the turbo and cam, but it does run really good right now.
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Note Tuesday October 12, 2010 16:17 View thread in raw text format
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is that 8588 turbo a factory part/garrett?
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Note Tuesday October 12, 2010 16:19 View thread in raw text format
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what turbo are you guys running, not trying to hijack thread. thanks johnny
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Note Tuesday October 12, 2010 16:35 View thread in raw text format
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I am running borgwarner 171702 myself and 5234795 injectors with Leon's 485+15% Ecm Program truck runs strong next will be a cam when I figgure which one.
The 23524912 cam has a injector height of .81mm and cam timing range of 5.03-6.10mm .0198-.0249 inches .The 23528308/309 cam looks like it would be a hotter cam to use as it has 82.1mm inj height and a timing range of 6.527-7.594mm 0.257-0.299 inch cam timing To me this looks like a real hot cam But I don't know I am just looking at the different specs on a chart I have. AMarine 12.7 cam 23525525/526 has a injector height of 81.0mm and a timing range of 6.17-6.78mm and .243-.267 inch to me the 23528308/309 cam would be a hotter cam to run ,But Like I stated I am not sure ya'll chime in please I love the direction this is going. Help us go eat some kitty kats!!happy

Edited: Tuesday October 12, 2010 at 16:55 by stump
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Note Wednesday October 13, 2010 14:05 View thread in raw text format
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Yes, the 8588 is a factory Garret number. Stump, how does the turbo you have compare to the one Pittsburg Power sells? A friend of mine took his 14L S-60 there and had their manifold & turbo installed along with Leons ECM. It runs damn good no matter where it's at in the rpm range!
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Note Thursday October 14, 2010 13:43 View thread in raw text format
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I am also running a 171702 on my 12.7 430/470 that has a 600hp program from Erich. Before I bought this 171702, I called Pittsburgh Power and asked them if what they were selling was this turbo, and all they would say was that it was very similar. So I'm guessing it is the same one. I paid $648 +$28 for shipping for a brand new BW. It performs very nice. Will build 40 lbs on my setup.

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Note Thursday October 14, 2010 15:29 View users profile View thread in raw text format
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I am running the 485+15% ecm, and 825hp MTU injectors and a Michigan Stage 5 turbo. I am going to get 15:1 pistons, and we are thinking of machining them to 14.5:1. I am also thinking of running the MTU 825 cam. If I go that route, I'm going to try and get the 600 program at 15% over.
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Note Friday October 15, 2010 12:39 View thread in raw text format
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Loweredd, are you sure you're not running on rails?!! LOL!! That will be some serious power. What kind of fuel mileage is everyone here seeing with their set-ups?
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Note Friday October 15, 2010 18:57 View users profile View thread in raw text format
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I'm fairly happy with it. I haven't dyno'd it since the injectors or turbo. I don't shift once it gets into the high hole. I hit Arbuckle in OK on 35 a week or so ago at about 76k and ran up at about 1/2 throttle cause I was speeding.

I get around 5.7. I have had better IFTA quarters, but I think she's getting worn out. I'm about 2000 miles shy of 1,000,000 right now.

Edited: Friday October 15, 2010 at 19:01 by loweredd
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Note Sunday October 17, 2010 05:28 View thread in raw text format
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As far as mileage, I recently bought a new ECM and had it programed to the engine serial # for a spare. I ran it a week (that's as long as I could put up with it!) and got 6.85 with it. I can get 7 with the 600hp programing and it is a pleasure to drive! I've been on a dedicated flatbed gig for the summer, out loaded and back empty grossing 57,000-79,000 with a 1996 4964F Western Star. I also have my cruise limited to 65mph and the pedal limit at 68mph.

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Note Sunday October 17, 2010 08:21 View users profile View thread in raw text format
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I'm usually 75-78,000. If the speedlimit is 70 or under, i will go about 2 over. If it's 75, I might go 75.
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Note Tuesday October 19, 2010 20:49 View thread in raw text format
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I'm routinely getting 6.6-6.9 grossing 70k. I have yet to break the 7 mark!
Do you guys think the 8588 turbo I have is holding me back? The most boost psi I've ever seen was 33 in a hard pull on a cold day... Manual gauge.
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Note Wednesday October 20, 2010 09:16 View thread in raw text format
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Does the 8588 have a wastegate. Give me the whole number and I will compare it t what I am running.
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Note Wednesday October 20, 2010 20:56 View thread in raw text format
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Nope, non-wastegate. Garret part# 23518588. Is this the same as the one PP sells? Here is a link with pics to the one I have. http://www.thedieselstore.com/template/productOutput.php?&partNum=TUG466713-9005&VehNum=

Edited: Wednesday October 20, 2010 at 21:07 by olered
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Note Thursday October 21, 2010 05:04 View thread in raw text format
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<< Nope, non-wastegate. Garret part# 23518588. Is this the same as the one PP sells? Here is a link with pics to the one I have. http://www.thedieselstore.com/template/productOutput.php?&partNum=TUG466713-9005&VehNum= >>



That crosses over to the Borg Warner 171702 as far as the P/N. If I can find the time to look it up at the garrett website we can compare compresor wheels etc between the 2 manufactures. I'm running the borg warner 171702 with 4795 injectors and 15% over ecm make 45lbs boost easy. I'm waiting for grampa to chime in on what he has to say.Where you at Grampa enlighten us!!
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